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02/12/2015 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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10:19:19 AM Start
10:20:08 AM Presentation: Golden Valley Electric Association
11:21:23 AM Presentation: Alaska Railbelt Cooperative Electric and Transmission Company
11:50:53 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentations: TELECONFERENCED
- "Understanding Energy in the Interior" by Cory
R. Borgeson, President & CEO, Golden Valley
Electric Association
- "Electric Industry Restructuring" by David
Gillespie, Chief Executive Officer, Alaska
Railbelt Cooperative Transmission & Electric
Company
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                       February 12, 2015                                                                                        
                           10:19 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jim Colver, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative David Talerico                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Liz Vazquez, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Benjamin Nageak                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  GOLDEN VALLEY ELECTRIC ASSOCIATION                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:      ALASKA   RAILBELT   COOPERATIVE   ELECTRIC   &                                                               
TRANSMISSION COMPANY                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CORY BORGESON, President and CEO                                                                                                
Golden Valley Electric Association                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation                                                                       
entitled, "Understanding Energy in the Interior," and dated                                                                     
2/12/15.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DAVID GILLESPIE, CEO                                                                                                            
Alaska Railbelt Cooperative Electric & Transmission Company                                                                     
(No address provided)                                                                                                           
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Provided   a  PowerPoint   presentation                                                             
entitled,  "Grid  Restructuring  and   Open  Access,"  and  dated                                                               
2/12/15.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:19:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR JIM COLVER called the  House Special Committee on Energy                                                             
meeting to order  at 10:19 a.m.   Representatives Talerico, Wool,                                                               
and Colver  were present at  the call to order.   Representatives                                                               
Tilton and Claman arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  GOLDEN VALLEY ELECTRIC ASSOCIATION                                                                              
       PRESENTATION:  GOLDEN VALLEY ELECTRIC ASSOCIATION                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
10:20:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be a  presentation by the  Golden Valley Electric  Association on                                                               
understanding energy in the Interior.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:20:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CORY  BORGESON,   President  and  CEO,  Golden   Valley  Electric                                                               
Association (GVEA), provided  a PowerPoint presentation entitled,                                                               
"Understanding Energy in  the Interior," and dated  2/12/15.  Mr.                                                               
Borgeson gave  brief background information  on GVEA  as follows:                                                               
serves nearly  100,000 residents;  serves a service  territory of                                                               
5,973  square miles  from Delta  Junction  to Cantwell;  situated                                                               
similarly to  an island at the  end of a long  transmission line;                                                               
serves an area  with extreme temperatures (slide 2).   He further                                                               
informed  the  committee that  GVEA  is  an electric  cooperative                                                               
owned  by  its  34,000  members,   who  vote  for  the  board  of                                                               
directors.   Ten  years ago  GVEA took  measures to  maintain its                                                               
high reliability  record by installing  a battery  storage system                                                               
to respond  during an  outage; in  fact, in  2014 it  prevented a                                                               
large number of  outages from occurring.   Golden Valley Electric                                                               
Cooperative has  the capacity to  generate 296 megawatts  (MW) of                                                               
electricity  and its  peak load  in 2014  was 201.6  MW; in  2014                                                               
retail sales totaled 1.22 billion  kilowatt (kW) hours (slide 3).                                                               
Total  sales  in  2014  were  down  as  members  are  using  less                                                               
electricity in  response to GVEA's business  and homeowner energy                                                               
conservation  programs;  average  residential usage  has  lowered                                                               
from 750 kW hours per month to  less than 600 kW hours per month.                                                               
In response,  GVEA is cutting  costs to  keep rates as  stable as                                                               
possible.  Sources of generation  are diversified:  hydroelectric                                                               
(hydro), coal, natural gas, oil,  and wind.  Mr. Borgeson pointed                                                               
out  GVEA's source  of hydro  is the  Bradley Lake  Hydroelectric                                                               
Project  (Bradley  Lake)  located  close  to  Homer.    Having  a                                                               
diversified portfolio of generation  has served GVEA members well                                                               
(slides 4 and 5).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:25:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WOOL  asked   for  the   percentage  of   GVEA's                                                               
electricity  that comes  from the  [Alaska Intertie  transmission                                                               
system (Alaska Intertie)].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  answered that is  represented by the  percentage of                                                               
natural  gas which  was 33  percent in  2013, and  35 percent  in                                                               
2014, as shown on slide 4.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  surmised  hydropower also  comes  over  the                                                               
Alaska Intertie, making the total 41 percent.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON said  yes.  On a typical summer  day, GVEA generates                                                               
about  150 MW,  and  brings about  80  MW on  the  intertie.   He                                                               
returned attention  to Bradley Lake,  noting that the  project is                                                               
owned  by  the  Alaska  Energy  Authority  (AEA),  Department  of                                                               
Commerce,  Community  &  Economic  Development  (DCCED),  and  is                                                               
considered  an independent  power producer  (IPP).   Bradley Lake                                                               
was developed by  the state, and is considered to  be a model for                                                               
financing energy  projects in Alaska.   For the funding  to build                                                               
the project,  the state provided  50 percent, and 50  percent was                                                               
thirty-year bonds to be paid back  by the Railbelt utilities on a                                                               
fifty-year contract  for the use  of the electricity.   The bonds                                                               
will be paid  in about seven years, at which  time the utilities'                                                               
payments will go to [AS 37.05.520 Railbelt Energy Fund].                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER asked  whether the  Delta oil-fired  facility is                                                               
always in operation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BORGESON said  the Delta  power plant  is very  expensive to                                                               
operate and is  rarely in operation.  In further  response to Co-                                                               
Chair  Colver, he  advised the  power  plant is  there for  extra                                                               
reliability in the Delta Junction area.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER asked whether GVEA  generates power for U.S. Army                                                               
Garrison Fort Greely.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON stated  Fort Greely generates power,  and also takes                                                               
about two MW from GVEA.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  stated that  the Aurora [Energy  Chena Power                                                               
Plant]  is  an IPP  and  asked  what  percentage of  GVEA's  coal                                                               
consumption is from the Aurora plant.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  estimated Aurora  Energy supplies  about 25  MW and                                                               
the Healy Unit 1 power plant produces about 25 MW.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:30:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON returned attention to  Bradley Lake, stating that it                                                               
was  a  very  successful  project  and  its  power  is  low-cost;                                                               
however, the  transmission lines  are constrained and  power from                                                               
Bradley Lake is not always  available when needed.  One advantage                                                               
of hydro is that generation can  be stored by the water level, so                                                               
all  of GVEA's  allotment is  provided,  but not  at the  optimal                                                               
time.     This  situation   costs  GVEA   money,  thus   GVEA  is                                                               
significantly  interested   in  having  the   transmission  lines                                                               
unconstrained.  Also,  power from Bradley Lake is  limited by the                                                               
level of  the lake and the  facility cannot deliver 120  MW for a                                                               
long period of  time.  The Alaska Energy Authority  is working on                                                               
the  Battle Creek  Diversion project  which  would divert  runoff                                                               
into  the   lake  and  increase  generation   from  the  existing                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER asked for the average output from Bradley Lake.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  said GVEA averages  11 MW from Bradley  Lake, which                                                               
is about 20 percent,  and he was unsure of the  total.  The power                                                               
is dispatched  by Chugach Electric  Association Inc. (CEA).   Eva                                                               
Creek Wind is owned by GVEA,  and was built with $13 million from                                                               
the state  and federal  financing at 1.3  percent interest.   The                                                               
project averages 33 percent, which  is a good capacity factor for                                                               
a wind  project.  In winter,  more power is needed  and more wind                                                               
is blowing;  however, wind generation requires  backup generation                                                               
at some cost (slide 6).   Small independent power producers, such                                                               
as  residential  solar and  wind  projects,  are accommodated  by                                                               
GVEA's  Sustainable  Natural  Alternative  Power  (SNAP)  program                                                               
which allows IPPs to hook into  the system and get paid for their                                                               
electricity through  net metering  authorized by  the legislature                                                               
and the Regulatory Commission of Alaska  (RCA) in 2010.   At this                                                               
time, GVEA has  53 IPPs; 412 GVEA members pay  an extra amount to                                                               
offset the higher  cost of renewable energy  from SNAP producers,                                                               
thus  IPPs get  more than  GVEA's  avoided cost  for their  power                                                               
(slide 7).                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:36:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER asked  whether  the extra  amount  to any  small                                                               
producer is a $0.10 tariff rate.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BORGESON said  the amount  varies each  quarter due  to fuel                                                               
cost.   In  further response  to  Co-Chair Colver,  he said  IPPs                                                               
receive a credit  as Co-Chair Colver described,  but net metering                                                               
reduces the amount of electricity  delivered by running the meter                                                               
backwards.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  provided a  scenario  in  which a  consumer                                                               
generated  more  power than  is  consumed,  and asked  whether  a                                                               
credit would accrue.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  said yes,  or the consumer  would receive  a check;                                                               
Delta Wind Farm produces more power,  and it receives a check.  A                                                               
special tariff  was developed for IPPs  that put up to  two MW of                                                               
electricity into the  grid, and no regulation  costs are charged.                                                               
He returned  to the presentation,  noting that GVEA  purchases 25                                                               
MW from  Aurora Energy at  $75 per MW hour,  60 MW from  CEA, and                                                               
other amounts from Anchorage Municipal  Light & Power (ML&P), and                                                               
Homer Electric Association  (HEA) (slide 8).  In  response to Co-                                                               
Chair Colver, he  said CEA is GVEA's main  source of electricity,                                                               
which is delivered to Fairbanks at a price that varies from $95-                                                                
$105 per MW hour.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:40:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER  asked how much  of the cost is  for transmission                                                               
through other utility districts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BORGESON estimated  CEA's transmission  rate is  about $8-$9                                                               
per  MW hour,  and  GVEA has  to  pay  about $6  per  MW hour  to                                                               
transmit  across  the Alaska  Intertie;  in  fact, GVEA  uses  96                                                               
percent  of   the  electricity  transmitted  across   the  Alaska                                                               
Intertie  thus  pays  96  percent   of  the  maintenance  of  the                                                               
transmission line.   Also,  line losses cost  about $4-$6  per MW                                                               
hour.  In  further response to Co-Chair Colver, he  said, "So FOB                                                               
from Chugach,  is about 100  to 105,  and it varies,  sometimes a                                                               
little bit less,  sometimes a little bit more ...  ten to ten and                                                               
a half cents."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER inquired  as to  AEA's interest  in joining  the                                                               
transmission cooperative and contributing assets thereto.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  stated that  AEA has  requested direction  from the                                                               
new administration and is interested.   He said he saw no problem                                                               
with  AEA being  a part  of a  transmission company  (TRANSCO) or                                                               
putting a line in.  He  opined that all of the transmission lines                                                               
should be part of a TRANSCO,  including the Alaska Intertie.  Mr.                                                               
Borgeson  returned attention  to the  Healy Unit  #1 and  Unit #2                                                               
power plants (slide 9).   Unit #2 is a 50 MW  plant which will be                                                               
running  in about  two  months;  as part  of  the air  permitting                                                               
process,   GVEA  agreed   to  install   additional  environmental                                                               
controls   which   will   require   two   additional   years   of                                                               
construction, although the  plant will be able to  run during the                                                               
two-year  period.    The  plant was  purchased  from  the  Alaska                                                               
Industrial Development  and Export  Authority (AIDEA),  DCCED, in                                                               
2012 or 2013 (slide 10).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:43:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO asked  whether the proposed Environmental                                                               
Protection   Agency   (EPA)   carbon   dioxide   (CO2)   emission                                                               
regulations would impact the production of the coal-fired plant.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON stated that the  proposed EPA regulations identified                                                               
five  plants  in  Alaska  that   would  be  subject  to  the  new                                                               
regulation.   Not  included are  the North  Pole Expansion  Plant                                                               
that  runs on  naphtha, and  oil-fired plants.   Included  in the                                                               
proposed  regulation are  Healy Unit  #1, and  four others.   The                                                               
regulations call  for a 26  percent reduction in  emissions, some                                                               
of  which  can   be  accomplished  by  closing   the  Beluga  and                                                               
Southcentral plants  which are less  efficient.  Unit #2  was not                                                               
included as  a base  unit and  is "in  transition in  between the                                                               
rules;"  however,  to  comply   with  the  proposed  regulations,                                                               
increased  efficiency  will be  required  and  GVEA is  concerned                                                               
about  Unit #1  being shut  down, which  will raise  the cost  of                                                               
electricity.   He  opined  that  shutting down  a  coal plant  in                                                               
Alaska and burning more diesel does not improve the CO2 limits.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:46:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER asked  how ratepayers  will be  affected by  the                                                               
"regulatory morass."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  acknowledged that  there is  a cost  to regulation;                                                               
GVEA has two  staff members and also uses  consultants to respond                                                               
to regulations and other work required by RCA.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  questioned which  generation source  will be                                                               
displaced when Healy Unit #2 is online.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON answered that Healy  Unit #2 will displace some oil-                                                               
fired power, and gas-generated power  from the south.  In further                                                               
response to  Representative Wool, he  explained that the  cost of                                                               
power from  Healy will be  very close to  the cost of  power from                                                               
CEA, ML&P,  and HEA, but Healy  will provide stability -  a long-                                                               
term  low-cost  coal  supply  -  while  the  price  of  oil  will                                                               
fluctuate along with the price of gas from Cook Inlet.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL surmised  if fees, rates, or  tariffs to move                                                               
electricity from  a gas-fired plant  in the south were  less, the                                                               
power from Healy would be more expensive.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BORGESON  advised that  the  cost  of transmission  will  be                                                               
spread out amongst all six  of the Railbelt utilities; therefore,                                                               
what will be  gained from one transmission rate  will be economic                                                               
dispatch; in  fact, under certain  circumstances, the  power from                                                               
the coal plant  may be cheaper than the gas-  or oil-fired power.                                                               
Economic dispatch  will allow the  utilities to  more efficiently                                                               
dispatch  all  of  the  types  of  generation  and  thereby  gain                                                               
significant savings.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:51:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A video  describing operations  at the  GVEA dispatch  center was                                                               
shown from 10:51 a.m. to 10:55 a.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:56:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  advised that dispatching power  creates big savings                                                               
for GVEA; furthermore, an independent  system operator (ISO) or a                                                               
unified  system operator  (USO) for  the Railbelt  would dispatch                                                               
generation  from  all of  the  utilities,  and savings  would  be                                                               
significant (slides 11  and 12).  Although some  power plants may                                                               
be shut down for periods of  time, the savings would be enough to                                                               
keep  staff  as needed  and  to  save  members  money.   He  then                                                               
provided  a  brief history  of  the  transmission system  in  the                                                               
Railbelt,  noting  that  prior  to  construction  of  the  Alaska                                                               
Intertie in the 1980s, the system  was not connected.  The Alaska                                                               
Intertie  allowed GVEA  to benefit  from  gas in  the Cook  Inlet                                                               
(slide 13).   In the 1990s, the system became  more robust around                                                               
the  Bradley  Lake  Hydroelectric   Project,  and  GVEA  added  a                                                               
transmission line to the Fort  Knox gold mine, which was possible                                                               
because  of  the Alaska  Intertie  (slide  14).   In  the  2000s,                                                               
improvements  to  the  Railbelt  system were:    GVEA  built  the                                                               
Northern Intertie  with money provided  by the  legislature; GVEA                                                               
installed the  battery energy storage system  (BESS) to stabilize                                                               
the long transmission line; the  Strategic Missile Defense System                                                               
line was  installed; Alyeska became  electrified by  Pump Station                                                               
#9; Pogo  gold mine transmission  line was installed;  North Pole                                                               
to Carney transmission  line was installed (slide  15).  However,                                                               
the transmission system needs further  improvement, and forming a                                                               
TRANSCO and  a USO are key  to finding financing and  a solution.                                                               
An upcoming  project is  adding a substation  at Clear  Air Force                                                               
Station for a  four MW system and backup generation.   Also, GVEA                                                               
is   part  of   the  Alaska   Railbelt  Cooperative   Electric  &                                                               
Transmission Company (ARCTEC) and supports  a USO or ISO; all six                                                               
Railbelt  utilities  have signed  onto  guiding  principles of  a                                                               
Railbelt  TRANSCO  agreement  in conjunction  with  the  American                                                               
Transmission Company.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:01:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER  asked  when the  aforementioned  agreement  was                                                               
signed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  responded the agreement  was about four  months old                                                               
(slide 16).   He turned  attention to GVEA's efforts  to purchase                                                               
power from Fire Island Wind  LLC, Cook Inlet Region, Inc. (CIRI).                                                               
The cost to  buy power coming from  phase 2 of the  wind farm and                                                               
across the  undersea cable was about  $2.81 per MW hour  just for                                                               
operation and  maintenance cost, because the  construction of the                                                               
cable was  by a state  grant.  The power  was then to  travel via                                                               
CEA's system  for an  interruptible tariff  rate modeled  at $11.                                                               
An interruptible rate was a concern  for GVEA because it may have                                                               
to  pay  for  wind  power  even if  the  transmission  system  to                                                               
Fairbanks were down.  At that  point, the firm cost was estimated                                                               
to be  $43 per MW hour.   The power  was then to go  to Matanuska                                                               
Electric (MEA)  which was to  shape and schedule the  wind power,                                                               
along with some  Bradley Lake hydropower, for a  wheeling cost of                                                               
$2.17, plus  operation and maintenance cost  of $7.59; therefore,                                                               
the worst  case was that the  power would cost $204  per MW hour,                                                               
and at the very least $140 per  MW hour to Fairbanks.  He pointed                                                               
out that  some of the cost  was for the regulation  of wind costs                                                               
by  MEA's Wartsila  cycling engines.   Although  GVEA has  a good                                                               
working relationship  with CIRC, CIRI was  extremely disappointed                                                               
by GVEA's  decision not to purchase  its wind power from  phase 2                                                               
of the Fire  Island Wind Project (slide 17).   In response to Co-                                                               
Chair Colver, Mr. Borgeson said AEA  charges about $6 per MW hour                                                               
for operation and maintenance.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER questioned  why there  is not  the same  problem                                                               
when transmitting gas-generated power from CEA.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  explained the  problem is the  same when  CEA sells                                                               
power, although  it can  "net out the  wheeling costs,"  but GVEA                                                               
still  has to  pay the  Alaska Intertie  cost, thus  when CEA  is                                                               
$100-$105 per  MW hour there  are some transmission  tariff costs                                                               
included.  Power  sold to GVEA from ML&P includes  costs from the                                                               
Alaska Intertie and also the CEA  wheeling cost.  A TRANSCO would                                                               
establish one price.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER inquired as to whether  there is a pathway to get                                                               
all of  the parties together, or  if it is necessary  for CEA "to                                                               
take the lead ..."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON  acknowledged that  CEA has taken  the lead  and has                                                               
completed a  significant amount of  work; in fact,  the utilities                                                               
are moving forward with the American Transmission Company.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER asked whether MEA's  new gas-fired system will be                                                               
competitive with wind.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BORGESON said  negotiating with  MEA was  a problem  because                                                               
costs were  estimated conservatively;  after two years,  MEA will                                                               
have a  better idea about its  costs.  In addition,  there may be                                                               
competition from ML&P and CEA.   He pointed out that the proposed                                                               
wind was  20 MW with a  30 percent capacity factor;  although the                                                               
Railbelt needs  this energy, Anchorage utilities'  gas prices are                                                               
now low, and the wind power  was expensive.  Mr. Borgeson closed,                                                               
saying that  GVEA feels that  electric costs have impacts  to the                                                               
community and  to mining  development in the  state, and  thus is                                                               
"embracing this TRANSCO and independent system operator."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:11:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL remarked:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     So, in  looking at  your diagram  from the  Fire Island                                                                    
     Wind and  all of  the expenses and  fees ...  if you're                                                                    
     embracing TRANSCO  then a lot  of this, a lot  of these                                                                    
     problems, there  are fees,  but it  won't be,  it'll be                                                                    
     easier to do, cheaper.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON agreed there will be  fees, and all of the costs for                                                               
transmission  in the  entire  Railbelt seem  to  equal about  $46                                                               
million-$47 million  per year;  when divided  amongst all  of the                                                               
kilowatt hours  sold, there  will be "losers  and winners  in the                                                               
transmission  cost."   For  example,  a  utility  with a  lot  of                                                               
generation and little transmission is  going to pay more, but the                                                               
savings  comes with  having  one price  which  leads to  economic                                                               
dispatch.  All of the utilities are modeling the economics.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL observed this problem  has not been solved in                                                               
the past and asked whether the situation is different now.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BORGESON opined  this has changed:  CEA, ML&P,  and GVEA used                                                               
to generate  the electricity;  over the past  two years,  HEA and                                                               
MEA  have   begun  generation.     This   has  made   the  rules,                                                               
regulations, and management of the system more dynamic.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:14:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at ease from 11:14 a.m. to 11:21 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:     ALASKA   RAILBELT  COOPERATIVE   ELECTRIC  and                                                               
TRANSMISSION COMPANY                                                                                                            
    PRESENTATION:  ALASKA RAILBELT COOPERATIVE ELECTRIC and                                                                 
                      TRANSMISSION COMPANY                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
11:21:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be a presentation  by the Alaska Railbelt  Cooperative Electric &                                                               
Transmission Company.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:21:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  GILLESPIE, CEO,  Alaska  Railbelt  Cooperative Electric  &                                                               
Transmission    Company   (ARCTEC),    provided   a    PowerPoint                                                               
presentation entitled  "Grid Restructuring and Open  Access," and                                                               
dated 2/12/15.   He informed  the committee the  utility industry                                                               
is facing  many changes and  exciting challenges.   Mr. Gillespie                                                               
explained  that  ARCTEC  was  formed   by  four  of  the  largest                                                               
cooperatives  in  the  Railbelt   to  advance  issues  of  common                                                               
concern.   Unlike the Alaska  Power Association (APA),  ARCTEC is                                                               
focused  on   the  Railbelt  and   issues  associated   with  its                                                               
interconnected grid.   He  gave a brief  personal history  on his                                                               
experience in  the industry (slide  3).  Mr.  Gillespie explained                                                               
that  ARCTEC's mission  is to  deliver  reliable and  sustainable                                                               
energy  to its  customers at  the lowest  possible cost,  with an                                                               
obligation  to  serve  all  who  are  connected  to  its  system;                                                               
furthermore, the  Railbelt transmission system was  built for the                                                               
foregoing purpose,  and ARCTEC has no  shareholders, only members                                                               
(slide  4).    Action  must  be taken  to  address  the  Railbelt                                                               
transmission  system  for the  following  reasons:   hundreds  of                                                               
millions of dollars are lost each  year in the form of uneconomic                                                               
dispatch - economic  dispatch is the simple concept  of using the                                                               
cheapest  energy available;  it  is difficult  to build  projects                                                               
that  have   regional  benefits;   despite  the   Public  Utility                                                               
Regulatory Policies Act (PURPA)  and the Regulatory Commission of                                                               
Alaska   (RCA),   independent   power   producers   (IPPs)   have                                                               
difficulties  getting projects  developed; reliability  standards                                                               
are not  uniformly adopted;  there is  no entity  responsible for                                                               
implementing an integrated plan (slide 5).                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:26:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GILLESPIE  said there are two  problems:  a lack  of transfer                                                               
capability prevents  cheap power from  going where it  is needed,                                                               
and  there is  no structure  because the  utilities are  separate                                                               
(slide  6).    First  turning   to  the  structural  problem,  he                                                               
explained that  each utility  has an  obligation to  its members,                                                               
thus each have transmission charges,  there is little system-wide                                                               
planning, and  there are competing priorities.   Furthermore, the                                                               
system  cannot deliver  existing  or new  sources of  generation.                                                               
The  system is  complicated, which  leads to  frustration and  an                                                               
atmosphere  of mistrust  (slide 7).   Mr.  Gillespie acknowledged                                                               
many  points  in  agreement with  the  Alaska  Independent  Power                                                               
Producers  Association   (AIPPA),  except  for  its   support  of                                                               
proposed  legislation.    Instead of  legislation,  he  suggested                                                               
relying  on RCA  for  implementing new  regulations.   Additional                                                               
points of  agreement are fair and  nondiscriminatory access, open                                                               
access to an independent system  operator (ISO), a unified system                                                               
operator  (USO),   or  a  transmission  company   (TRANSCO),  and                                                               
measured outcomes (slide 8).  He remarked:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        The message with the slide is, everybody already                                                                        
     agrees on what we need to do, let's talk about how we                                                                      
     get there.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GILLESPIE  stated the  first guiding principle  for a  USO is                                                               
stakeholder governance.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:30:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER asked  whether  a TRANSCO  would  be a  separate                                                               
corporation  with   shareholders  or   board  members   from  the                                                               
utilities, and representation from IPPs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GILLESPIE  advised that  normally  a  system operator  is  a                                                               
nonprofit  entity with  members who  are the  stakeholders.   The                                                               
members are utilities, IPPs, and  customers, but the board is not                                                               
dominated by  utilities.  He  returned to the  guiding principles                                                               
of a  USO:  governance by  RCA and a regulatory  compact; accepts                                                               
nationally    recognized     reliability    standards;    accepts                                                               
interconnection  standards;   plans  system   upgrades;  provides                                                               
nondiscriminatory   access   and   service;   provides   economic                                                               
dispatch;  respects existing  agreements  and investments  (slide                                                               
9).                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  asked  how  previous  agreements  would  be                                                               
recognized.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GILLESPIE provided  the example  of  a utility  that is  now                                                               
generating  power  and in  the  future  may have  its  investment                                                               
"stranded" because  the generation is  not as heavily  in demand.                                                               
Instead, a  utility's investment should continue  to be recovered                                                               
in rates because  its generation is still useful.   Mr. Gillespie                                                               
said  ARCTEC's objectives  are to  capture the  economic benefits                                                               
through  better integration,  economic  dispatch, more  efficient                                                               
use of the  transmission system, and opportunities for  IPPs.  He                                                               
acknowledged  that   IPPs  provide  service,  accept   risk,  are                                                               
innovative,  and  are  lower  cost.   Also,  there  needs  to  be                                                               
coordinated planning,  an efficient use of  capital, a regulatory                                                               
framework that is understandable,  transparent, and stable, and a                                                               
regulatory  regime overseen  by RCA  (slide  10).   The role  for                                                               
ARCTEC is to act as a  catalyst that provides a venue for change,                                                               
and to provide a forum for stakeholders.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:36:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER surmised that ARCTEC  was not waiting for a study                                                               
that will be coming from RCA on the system operator concept.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GILLESPIE  said  no.    Although  RCA  will  be  opening  an                                                               
informational docket  in the near  future seeking  information on                                                               
this process,  ARCTEC intends to  garner consensus on  a proposal                                                               
to  submit to  RCA  for implementation.    Returning to  ARCTEC's                                                               
role, he  said ARCTEC  can ultimately provide  services to  a USO                                                               
such  as settlement  services,  accounting,  and energy  clearing                                                               
(slide 11).   He  turned to  the difference between  a USO  and a                                                               
TRANSCO:  a  USO would establish and implement a  set of rules; a                                                               
TRANSCO  would  own  and  operate  assets,  deploy  capital,  and                                                               
implement policy  (slide 12).   Further differences  are:   a USO                                                               
does  not  own assets,  and  a  TRANSCO  does;  a USO  makes  and                                                               
enforces  rules,   a  TRANSCO  follows   the  rules;  a   USO  is                                                               
stakeholder  governed,  with  diverse management,  a  TRANSCO  is                                                               
governed by its  owners; both entities have  regulated tariffs; a                                                               
USO  provides planning  for the  transmission  system, a  TRANSCO                                                               
implements the transmission system; a  USO is always nonprofit, a                                                               
TRANSCO is  usually a for-profit  entity; a  USO is a  policy and                                                               
rulemaking body, a TRANSCO is an  operating body (slide 13).  Mr.                                                               
Gillespie observed  that ARCTEC's  focus is  primarily on  a USO,                                                               
because it is possible to have either  a USO or a TRANSCO, but it                                                               
is better to have both.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:40:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GILLESPIE  continued  to   infrastructure  financing:    The                                                               
transmission infrastructure  in Alaska needs  further development                                                               
to  achieve  the  economic  benefits   that  come  from  economic                                                               
dispatch;   however,   the   state    has   granted   money   for                                                               
infrastructure in the past, and  cooperatives are not financially                                                               
capable of  supporting large new  debt for capital projects.   In                                                               
fact, recent generation projects  have consumed the debt capacity                                                               
that utilities have; in addition, the  state is less able to fund                                                               
large projects.   Finally, no  one has been responsible  for "the                                                               
big picture,"  such as the  constrained transmission  system from                                                               
the Kenai Peninsula to Fairbanks (slide 14).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER  referred  to   slide  15,  which  listed  three                                                               
projects, and  said he understood  a section at Willow  was still                                                               
constrained as well.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GILLESPIE responded  that the  projects  on slide  15 are  a                                                               
partial  list  of projects  being  done  in sections,  and  which                                                               
represent $30  million of $100  million left  to do.   Also shown                                                               
was  the  Susitna-Watana  Hydro project,  which  ARCTEC  believes                                                               
should be funded  by the state through licensing (slide  15).  He                                                               
then  advised  that there  are  different  methods for  financing                                                               
infrastructure and transmission projects (slide 16):                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   · Funding by the Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project model                                                                    
     wherein the state bonds a project and the users of the                                                                     
     project - in this case the utilities - pay the debt service                                                                
     through their electric rates.                                                                                              
   · TRANSCO owners can bring private capital.                                                                                  
   · Existing state assets can be restructured or refinanced.                                                                   
   · Public/private investment and loans backed by the state's                                                                  
     credit.                                                                                                                    
   · Other nontraditional methods.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GILLESPIE  concluded that the  Railbelt utilities  agree with                                                               
the  need to  implement  the USO  concept,  thus the  legislature                                                               
should  encourage a  stakeholder  process presided  over by  RCA.                                                               
Also,  ARCTEC  would  like  to  be the  catalyst  to  "make  that                                                               
happen."   Finally, the state should  encourage alternative forms                                                               
of  financing in  order to  enhance  infrastructure and  generate                                                               
economic activity (slide 17).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:47:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER asked  for ARCTEC's  recommendation on  the next                                                               
step to implementation  of the concepts of an ISO  and a TRANSCO,                                                               
and whether legislative action is appropriate at this time.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GILLESPIE opined the next step  is to continue the efforts to                                                               
begin the  groundwork on  a USO  and a TRANSCO.   Soon,  RCA will                                                               
release its  opinion on its  jurisdiction in this matter;  if the                                                               
answer is  no, RCA  may need  enabling legislation,  which ARCTEC                                                               
will request from the legislature "in the next month or so."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL surmised that ARCTEC  is in a USO position at                                                               
this  point,  and a  TRANSCO  is  a yet-to-be-determined  holding                                                               
company that  would own, operate,  and maintain  the transmission                                                               
lines.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GILLESPIE  agreed,  and restated  that  six  utilities  have                                                               
"signed  on  to  a  set  of  [memorandum  of  understanding]  MOU                                                               
principles  which is  moving the  ball forward  on that,  on that                                                               
front."   In further  response to  Representative Wool,  he added                                                               
that a USO is about the  rules, enforcement, and standards, and a                                                               
TRANSCO is about  implementing.  He clarified that  ARCTEC is not                                                               
yet a TRANSCO.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:50:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 11:50 a.m.